1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 I'm Sean Ryder, as a 15 year old lad in Salford, 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000 long before my old racing antics and I have been Mondays, 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,000 I saw a ball of light whizzing about in the night sky as I stood at a bus stop. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 I knew there and then I'd seen a UFO, 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 ever since I've been obsessed with all things extraterrestrial. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 I've always wanted to understand what I saw that day, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,000 and in this series I'm going to do just that. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,000 My mission is to seek out those at the forefront of UFO research, 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:40,000 and through them try to discover how other people deal with this most mysterious phenomenon. 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 I'll be meeting the top dogs of ufology, 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,000 from generals and scientists to the abductees themselves, 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 to hear what they have to say and to separate fact from fiction. 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 That's clear as day like that. 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Well, this is one of the strangest, mysterious things I've ever seen. 15 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Chile is the UFO capital of South America, 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,000 where most sightings per square kilometre than almost anywhere else on the planet, 17 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,000 the country's media is the wash of reports of mysterious happenings in its skies. 18 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Arm headed to Santiago, the capital of this country, 19 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 squeezed between the Andes Mountains and the Pacific Ocean, 20 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,000 stretching almost 3,000 miles down the continent's west coast. 21 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 I've been here before with a band, 22 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,000 and after 20 hours on a plane it always feels like I've arrived at the edge of the world. 23 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,000 But there have been no trashy hotel rooms are dealing with cranky roadies. 24 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 I've come here to meet the people who can shed some light 25 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,000 on Chile's most amazing UFO sightings, and everyone has their own point of view. 26 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Santiago itself has a rich history of UFO sightings, 27 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,000 and meeting Antonio Juneyos, a world-renowned UFO writer and expert 28 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 who's been investigating them for 20 years. 29 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,000 I'm expecting some mind-blowing stuff, so it's vital and properly prepared. 30 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Hi, Sean. Hi, Antonio. Yeah. 31 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Pleased to meet you. He's the one and only. 32 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 So... So if you've got one question, 33 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,000 we're going to this place called El Bosque. El Bosque? 34 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Yeah, which is where the Air Force Academy is located. OK. 35 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,000 And where this incident took place just about exactly two years ago. 36 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 The El Bosque case has rocked the world of ufology. 37 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Six months ago, footage captured at a Chilean airbase was released 38 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 that appears to show a genuine UFO. 39 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,000 It's the major factor in why I've chosen to be a part of this. 40 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,000 That appears to show a genuine UFO. 41 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 It's the major factor in why I've chosen to come to Chile now, 42 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 and I'm hoping Antonio will help me get to the bottom of it. 43 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Basically, what we're seeing here is every four years, 44 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,000 you have a change of the commander-in-chief of the Chilean Air Force. 45 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 So they beat him out every four years? 46 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Yeah, automatically, it changes. 47 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,000 And because it is the Air Force, they do this big military parade. 48 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,000 A lot of people take films, you know, a lot of people photograph them. 49 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:51,000 And seven different videos show this little object going very, very fast. 50 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Although almost too fast to be seen with an achy eye, 51 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,000 once the video is slowed right down, something seriously weird appears. 52 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,000 The video shows a dome-shaped, flat-bottomed metallic object 53 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 buzzing around the fighter jets. 54 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Of course, there are many cases of military pilots seeing UFOs, 55 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,000 but there are not too many videos where you see both of the aircraft in the UFO. 56 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Very few. 57 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,000 What speed is that? 58 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Well, in one of the analysis, they estimated that it was 18 times faster than the plane, 59 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 because that's a nice thing about this video. 60 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,000 They know how long it takes from one side of the mountain here to the other side. 61 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:34,000 So there are a lot of known parameters, which is normally you don't have that in videos. 62 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 A couple of thousand miles an hour or so. 63 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Something like that. 64 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Wow. 65 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 And has that been looked at? It's not a mosquito, is it? 66 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Well, some people say it is. 67 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Yeah, they probably would, yeah. 68 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 That was the one that was suggested. 69 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 The only one, they had left for the black. 70 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Right. 71 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,000 And one of the reasons it's so interesting is because it was released officially by the committee. 72 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 You know, Chile has... 73 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Well, Chile seems to be quite free on releasing stuff, though. 74 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,000 It is, it is. 75 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Chile is unusual in being among a number of countries that officially take UFOs seriously. 76 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:14,000 So much so that in 1997, the government set up a committee for the study of anomalous aerial phenomena, 77 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:21,000 or CIFA, to analyze and study all sightings of UFOs reported in the country. 78 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Once CIFA is certain an object is truly unidentifiable, they officially release the footage, 79 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 like they did with the El Bosque video in March 2012. 80 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,000 I mean, Srid, it's time for Antonio and I to see this place for ourselves. 81 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 So I guess we'll go to the actual place. 82 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,000 There's nothing better to investigate a UFO case than to go to the spot where you're having it. 83 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Absolutely. 84 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Off to the spot. 85 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 I guess that shows that star, if I believe. 86 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Yeah. 87 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 So how long have you written his drivers? 88 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 I think about half an hour. 89 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Half an hour, it's good. 90 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Depending on traffic, but shouldn't be too much more than that. 91 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Dear Antonio. 92 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:10,000 As we head out into Santiago's Rush Hour traffic, it's time to pick Antonio's brain 93 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,000 about some of the questions that keep me awake at night. 94 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Why is it that people are so fascinated by UFOs? 95 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 I mean, why am I fascinated by UFOs? 96 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,000 I mean, with me, I was stuck in a batch of what I saw when I was a teenager. 97 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:32,000 But, you know, then again, it just seems I was ridiculous that we're the only people in the universe. 98 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Right. 99 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Well, for me, I think it's the mystery, you know, because even the skeptics have to recognize 100 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,000 that at least as a sociological phenomenon, UFOs are real. 101 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 In other words, people see stuff. 102 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Nobody can deny that. 103 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 But we don't know what it is. 104 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 That's why they call them UFOs, right? 105 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000 I mean, my first time when I saw something was in the 70s. 106 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Just literally flying about like this. 107 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Yeah. 108 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 And then off. 109 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 That's kind of the same thing I saw. 110 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,000 In here, my first UFO sighting was in 1988. 111 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 I saw these lights. 112 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 I mean, it looked like a star. 113 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,000 I had the luminosity of the star, but it was moving like crazy, you know, just like... 114 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 And then it would stop and it went on for like, I don't know, 20 minutes or something. 115 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Yeah. 116 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Antonio and I have had the same experience, but we're not alone. 117 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Two-thirds of close encounters are the first kind that his sightings of UFOs are similar to ours. 118 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Mysterious lights in the night sky moving with incredible speed 119 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,000 and performing impossible fast changes of direction. 120 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:53,000 I looked up in the sky once and saw literally hundreds of small lights, you know, like, hundreds of them. 121 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Oh, really? 122 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Going across the sky. 123 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:03,000 And the next day it was on the local news that apparently it was supposed to be the lights from the rubby ground, 124 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,000 which was just rubby. 125 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,000 That was the explanation. 126 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Yeah, it was garbage. 127 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000 And even when they went away, they didn't look like that. 128 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 I think this was in Britain? 129 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Yeah. 130 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Yeah, it's a lot of strange stuff. 131 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,000 I mean, if they suddenly announced tomorrow that, you know, we've contacted other people, 132 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,000 I mean, a lot of people would go bananas. 133 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,000 I don't think even nowadays they would take it. 134 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Mathematically, we're teaming with life. 135 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Exactly. 136 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 And in the universe, it's so huge, why would it just be one place with life? 137 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 I mean, it doesn't make sense. 138 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,000 To put the mathematical chance of life elsewhere in the universe into perspective, 139 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,000 it's important to understand Earth's place within it. 140 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Our galaxy contains an estimated 400 billion stars. 141 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,000 If the planet's around just 0.001% of these are with some kind of life, 142 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 that still leaves 40 million, almost three times the population of Chile, 143 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 that could support life. 144 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Once you then consider our galaxy, it's just one of billions in the known universe. 145 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 It's enough to twist anyone's melon. 146 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:15,000 The universe may be vast, but it's conspired to put Antonio and I together on this mission. 147 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 We're going to be there where this thing happened right now. 148 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000 The odds that we're going to see UFOs, I doubt it, but you never know, of course. 149 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Antonio has his doubts, but as we weave our way through Santiago, 150 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,000 I know from personal experience that strange things have happened. 151 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,000 I'm Sean Ryder, lead singer of the Api Mundis. 152 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,000 I'm in Chile on a mission to find out the truth about the country's UFO sightings. 153 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 On the trail of one of Chile's most curious recent cases, 154 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,000 I managed to get official military clearance to the Chilean Air Force Base, 155 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 El Bosque, outside Santiago. 156 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Commander Pedi, a fighter pilot and instructor is here to meet us. 157 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Hello, sir. Hiya. 158 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Welcome. Welcome to the Air Force Academy. 159 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Thanks for having us. 160 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Owned to the Chilean Air Force Academy, the skies above the base 161 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,000 are often opposed with military aircraft, 162 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,000 but on November 5th, 2010, it played host to something much more mysterious. 163 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Anyway, this is good. When I left Northern England, it was snowing, so this is a lot better. 164 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 This is the base, is it? Yeah. 165 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 That's right. 166 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Was you here that day? 167 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,000 I was there. I was in the formation of a 5. 168 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000 You were flying? That's right. 169 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Wow. 170 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 What do you think that is? 171 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Well, I certainly don't think it's an insect. 172 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 It's somebody I said. 173 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Maybe dashing the camera or not. 174 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 No. No. 175 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,000 I didn't say anything. I was just seeing the formation. 176 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Yeah, very busy. 177 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,000 So when you were flying that day, what speed were you doing in your flight? 178 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 We passed about 350 knots. 179 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 And that thing was probably going about 3,000 miles an hour. 180 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Very fast, yeah. 181 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:12,000 I'm really excited to be here and see where it was all happening. 182 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Chile's governmental body dealing with UFOs, CIFA, 183 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,000 has a rigorous process of determining what constitutes a genuine sighting, 184 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,000 and the El Bosque video has stood up to all their tests. 185 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:33,000 95% of the information we get is clarified or undone. 186 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:39,000 We have around 200 cases, which have been investigated 187 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,000 and we have no explanation for them. 188 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Or they have an explanation that is an unidentified aerial phenomenon. 189 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Of the seven videos captured that day, 190 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,000 so far only one has been officially released by CIFA. 191 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,000 In it, the suspicious object passes through the frame several times, 192 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 as the military jets take part in the air show. 193 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,000 We're heading to the exact spot from where the video was shot, 194 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 and I can't wait to see it for myself. 195 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 This looks familiar. 196 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 That's right. 197 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,000 This is pretty much the same position that the video was made. 198 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Okay, so we got the video here. 199 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,000 We can reconstruct actually the incident as it happened. 200 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 There are the hills. 201 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,000 That's right. 202 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,000 And we see the building. 203 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,000 You can see the front, the forest and the buildings on the front. 204 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 It's the same position. 205 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Nobody saw anything. 206 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Nobody saw anything. 207 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,000 I guess it took a while until people started reviewing the footage. 208 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 And nothing shows up on radar. 209 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:50,000 We use actually a radar to keep the distance between all formations. 210 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,000 So that day nobody reports nothing unusual. 211 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Right. 212 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Even though no one noticed anything that day, 213 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 I mean, trying to find out Commander Peddy's professional view 214 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 of just what the UFO might be. 215 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 So you've seen the video of this. 216 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 I mean, what do you think that is? 217 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 I'm going to question it. 218 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:18,000 It's strange because it's nothing military or civilian aircraft. 219 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 It's not a bird. 220 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:27,000 So maybe we have something out of this planet in that video. 221 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Coming from an Air Force pilot, this is music to me ears. 222 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Even in the UFO-op zone like Chile, authentic sightings are rare. 223 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 I've been here less than 24 hours 224 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 and already my investigation is up and running. 225 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,000 In general, pilots or people with aeronautical background, 226 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 both pilots and air traffic controllers, 227 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 we call them qualified testicles 228 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,000 because the preparation they have is different from the person who works in another area. 229 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,000 And on the other hand, the one who is more familiar with different aeronautical models 230 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,000 or different meteorological phenomena that are happening today in our atmosphere. 231 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000 This is our first bit of real evidence. 232 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 I'm over a million, you know? 233 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Yeah. 234 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,000 So it's great to speak to people in the military 235 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:20,000 who are brave enough to come on camera and say that it's a possibility that it's not of this world. 236 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 That's right. 237 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Maybe it's a possibility. 238 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 I don't have the answer. 239 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,000 But maybe we have in front of something out of this world. 240 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Before that news is even sunken, 241 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,000 we're told about a newly discovered video filmed the same day by the Air Force personnel. 242 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Not only has it never been seen before, even see if I don't know it exists. 243 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Unbelievably, we're offered the chance to analyse it in the Bases Command Centre. 244 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Antonio and I are eager to find out whether this new footage will give us any extra answers. 245 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,000 We're watching the air parade. 246 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:03,000 This is the F5 formation with the UFO appears in another video. 247 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 So you were... 248 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 That's right in the middle. 249 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 That's the guy? 250 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 That's you. 251 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Yeah. 252 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:18,000 That's the birds and the cross in the video. 253 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Well, whatever those UFOs were in the famous ones, 254 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 certainly you can totally rule out birds. 255 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Birds are totally different. 256 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,000 We have lots of examples of birds. 257 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Checking out the local bird lab is all well and good. 258 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,000 But if I wanted to go twitching, I could have stayed in Salford. 259 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:45,000 So that is another one formation of F16 and nothing's serious. 260 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 I just saw something then. 261 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Yeah, it was down here. 262 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,000 There? 263 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Oh, yes. 264 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 I mean, I don't know, but there's something there. 265 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Yeah, yeah. 266 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Maybe some reference. 267 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,000 I don't know. 268 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,000 I mean, there is something there. 269 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 I think it's a... 270 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,000 I don't know, maybe a light or a reflection of the camera. 271 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:25,000 No, no, I don't think it's a reflex, but... 272 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 It's one should be good. 273 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 It's a fast-flying chicken. 274 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 I don't know if it's a leg. 275 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,000 It is. 276 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,000 It's a little bit of a sink. 277 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Let's see it by the beginning. 278 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Yeah, yeah. 279 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Yeah, I don't know. 280 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 It's very similar. 281 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 282 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,000 That makes it eight videos now. 283 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 We had seven before. 284 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Well, definitely, I don't think that was a bird. 285 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 No, because we had lots of birds. 286 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Yeah, yeah. 287 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 We could make great comparisons with birds. 288 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 We're not going to let us take away that film. 289 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Very nice. 290 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 It's only a brief glimpse, but I'm sure what I've just seen 291 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,000 is the same UFO as the one on the original El Bosque video 292 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 and blown away by the tape, 293 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000 but also by these people. 294 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000 It's impossible to imagine being welcome with such open arms 295 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,000 investigating UFOs at a military base back home. 296 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,000 They're even going to give us a copy of our newly discovered eighth tape. 297 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,000 I'm really pleased that we've managed to get a copy, 298 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 and we're going to...it looks like. 299 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Still, even though I'm convinced the cynic's voice is never far away 300 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 when it comes to controversial subjects like this. 301 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,000 There are a lot of our astronomers who say there's something there. 302 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 And they give their reasons. 303 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,000 In some...in some statements, they clearly see insects. 304 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000 In others, there are strange objects. 305 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 And while the investigation continues, 306 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 it's still not over yet. 307 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000 What's more than I expected? 308 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Brilliant. Thank you. 309 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 I've only just arrived in Chile, 310 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,000 and I have to admit I wasn't expecting so much so soon. 311 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 It may just be pixels on the screen, 312 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,000 but like me, the people here are open to the idea that it might just be more. 313 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 And that's good news for the rest of my trip. 314 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000 The 7,000 miles that I've travelled to be here 315 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,000 is already starting to feel like it was well worth the effort. 316 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 I've travelled to Chile on a mission 317 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,000 to unearth the truth behind the country's UFO phenomena. 318 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 My trip has got off to a flying start 319 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 with the discovery of a UFO 320 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,000 on the previously unseen video at El Bosque Air Base. 321 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,000 My aim today is to get up close and personal with the real thing. 322 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,000 I'm heading 30 miles east of Santiago to Cajón de Maipo, 323 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:19,000 one of Chile's UFO zones calientes, or hot zones. 324 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 This area, right in the foothills of the Andes, 325 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 has long attracted tourists, 326 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,000 but some are convinced the visitors are coming from much further afield, 327 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 or the star systems. 328 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,000 There are sectors of Chile where there are up to two weekly sightings. 329 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,000 In some cases, up to three weekly sightings. 330 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,000 The weekly sightings are constant, that type of incident, 331 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,000 and what makes Chile a fabulous laboratory 332 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,000 to investigate in situ the UFO events. 333 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 I've arranged to meet ufologist Miguel Jardin. 334 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,000 He's been coming here since the early 90s, 335 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 and I'm excited about what he has in store for me. 336 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Hi. Hi, Michelle. Nice to meet you. And you. 337 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Finally. Yeah, good. 338 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 So, what is this place? Where are we? 339 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 You're welcome to San José Maipo. 340 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,000 It's a little town in the middle of the Cajón de Maipo Valley. 341 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 And this is a very special area for us, 342 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000 because here we have seen a lot of UFOs. 343 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Maybe 30 or 40% of the people living here, 344 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,000 or this in this area, have seen an UFO. 345 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Three out of ten people in the square might have seen a UFO? 346 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,000 I would say yes, but let's try if this is true. 347 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Let's prove it. Yeah, OK. Let's go. 348 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Miguel seems pretty confident, and with good reason. 349 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,000 In 2002, the town's mayor declared San José Maipo 350 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,000 a UFO tourism zone after he and other locals made sightings. 351 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,000 I'm just hoping my dodgy Spanish doesn't alienate me. 352 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Perfecto. They haven't seen a UFO. 353 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000 OK. 354 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Muchas gracias. Gracias. 355 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,000 Well, that got off to a shaky start, 356 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000 but we're putting more people in the square, 357 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 and I'm not going to be put off that easily. 358 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 What about this man? 359 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Uh, sure could be. Let's try. 360 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Yeah, you can try. 361 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Yo, 43 años en la planta que tengo. 362 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 En la planta que tengo está 43 años abajo. 363 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000 43 años. 364 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Y ahí siempre aparecían los hombres, 365 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000 pero de lejos los veíamos así, no más. 366 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Ah, y su otro colega de la planta también? 367 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000 También. 368 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 He and also the college, they have seen the same phenomenon 369 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000 for a long time. 370 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Light, slow moving light, so I'll be... 371 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Yes. 372 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000 You see it? 373 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000 No sé, la luz así, no más... 374 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Ya. 375 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Cuánto graba? Cuánto tiempo graba? 376 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Para uno lo riera un par de minutos. 377 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Par de minutos? 378 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Sí. 379 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Minutes, a couple of minutes. 380 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Y después de saber si... 381 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Lento, rápido. 382 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Ah, rápido. 383 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Sí, así es lo que me parece. 384 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Fast, yeah. 385 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Yeah. 386 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 What the old fella there seems to have seen is... 387 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,000 You know, what I saw, the fast moving, 388 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 side to side... 389 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 zigzagging off. 390 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 He's the second person we've asked, you know, 391 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 so that's pretty good. 392 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 That's just 50% already. 393 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,000 If I wondered down D's gate in Manchester, 394 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 asking people about UFOs would be told to get lost, 395 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 I wonder whether the openness here 396 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 is just down to what they witnessed 397 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,000 or something more fundamental about Chileans. 398 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Eh... 399 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Maipo? 400 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Se lo amareció a salud. 401 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 ¿Y lo sigue a nosotros? 402 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Hola, ustedes son de acá, ¿no? ¿Cierto? 403 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,000 No. 404 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,000 ¿Son visitantes? 405 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Sí. 406 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000 ¿Usted viene regularmente a la zona de Maipo? 407 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Sí. 408 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Perfecto. 409 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000 ¿Tú se quizás habrán visto alguna cosa extraña en el cielo alguna vez? 410 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,000 No. 411 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 ¿Cómo fue lo que viste? ¿Qué te tocó ver? 412 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Si se puede saber. 413 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Luz, desmovimiento... 414 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,000 ¿Por qué? 415 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Eh... extraño muy rápido. 416 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Muy rápido. 417 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Mucha gracias. 418 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Gracias. 419 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Everybody seems to have their own take on extraterrestrial life. 420 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 She was not a witness, but... 421 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 I didn't see anything like this. 422 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 I was at the station at 4 or 5 in the morning, 423 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 and he was traveling, and then there was a light. 424 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 It was strong, and... 425 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 He didn't fear it. 426 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000 But that light was on, on, on, on. 427 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000 And then he started to advance very slowly. 428 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 And then he was lost. 429 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,000 The light in the color of the ranch, because it's like... 430 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 It's like we were at the disco. 431 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Do you think we are alone in the galaxy? 432 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Ah! 433 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 ¿Usted quiere que estemos solo en la galaxia? 434 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 No. 435 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 ¿Copique que estamos acompañados? 436 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Yes, we are not alone. 437 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 It's good. 438 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 We spent the morning in the square, 439 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 and it turns out Miguel's prediction was actually conservative. 440 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000 In fact, around 70% of the people we've asked 441 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 claimed to have seen a UFO. 442 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,000 What strikes me is how similar these people's experiences are 443 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 to the one I had all those years ago 444 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 on the other side of the world. 445 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000 You're all in the same club. 446 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,000 You see one, you see one. 447 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Same club. 448 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Miguel suggests a place further up, Cajón de Maipo, 449 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000 as a perfect spot for us to try and see a UFO. 450 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 And so we head up into the mountains. 451 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000 The Andes is the longest mountain range in the world, 452 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000 stretching 4,300 miles through seven countries. 453 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Farmed 138 million years ago, 454 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000 when the South American and Nazca tectonic plates smashed together, 455 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000 they rise to the height of almost 7,000 metres, 456 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,000 and are home to scenery as brutal as it is beautiful. 457 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Not only that, they play host to some of the clear-ish skies 458 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000 anywhere on the planet, perfect for spotting any extra 459 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 terrestrial visitors. 460 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 After the success of this morning, 461 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 it's hard to believe we won't see something for ourselves. 462 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,000 And as the evening starts to jar in, I'm feeling tense. 463 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 We're here! 464 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 What a place! What a nice place! 465 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Five minutes ago, sunshine boiling up, speedos and beach. 466 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Now... 467 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Amazing, huh? 468 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 So this is where we get a lot of UFO sightings here? 469 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Yeah, I would say it's a very wide area 470 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,000 where this kind of phenomena have been apparent since a long time. 471 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:08,000 You know, we have a history of 200 or 300 years of UFO phenomena. 472 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 The Spanish guys that arrived to South America in the beginning, 473 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,000 they brought everything, the lights that came from the water, 474 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,000 came from the mountain down that moved in a very specific way. 475 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,000 These episodes were written using other words, other descriptions, 476 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,000 but if you try to interpret what they were trying to tell us, 477 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 the phenomena is the same. 478 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000 So it's a very, very odd story. 479 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,000 According to Miguel, Chile has been visited by aliens for centuries, 480 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000 but one intriguing theory states contact goes back far beyond the arrival 481 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000 of the conquestadors and into antiquity, 482 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,000 a hypothesis known as paleo-contacts. 483 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,000 The idea suggests that primitive man's exposure to ancient aliens 484 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 influenced the development of culture and religion on Earth, 485 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,000 and that as a consequence, the deities worshipped in modern-day faiths 486 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000 were in fact originally extraterrestrial. 487 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000 As to why aliens might want to visit our planet, 488 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,000 one theory is that Chile is being used as some kind of intergalactic petrol station. 489 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000 I think that minerals are a key factor 490 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 for the amount of observations of UFOs there are. 491 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 A territory with many natural resources, 492 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,000 because I think there is a direct and proportional relationship 493 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 between the need for energy, 494 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 by this phenomenon, 495 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 and that it provides them. 496 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,000 There is a relationship between nature, 497 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,000 energy supply and phenomena. 498 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 I believe that in any way. 499 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,000 What's the most spectacular story that you think is credible of happening up here? 500 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,000 For me, the most spectacular phenomenon was, 501 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,000 one day suddenly, a UFO appeared and I said, 502 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,000 please wait, I go to the battery, I put it on, 503 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,000 and then I made the light and they asked me with light and then they disappeared. 504 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,000 Could you say, I guess, how big this thing was? 505 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,000 It's difficult to say because you cannot see exactly the form, 506 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 maybe you suppose it's 200 meters away, 507 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000 but it could be maybe one, it's difficult to say. 508 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Today in Chile, 80% of the cases that arrive in the aeronautics 509 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000 are all different, different in size, different in color, 510 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 different in movement, different in the situation, 511 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000 in geographical places where they are manifested, 512 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 different in their forms. 513 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Therefore, making a disaster is already complex. 514 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000 That shows us how difficult it is to accept this phenomenon. 515 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000 So what we're going to do is just wait until it gets dark, 516 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000 and then out for the mountain to open up. 517 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,000 We normally arrive at this hour in order to see the whole area, 518 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000 because in the night when it's very, very dark, 519 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,000 if something appears you want to be very sure that what he's looking is a UFO. 520 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000 So if I see a UFO, what should I do? 521 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,000 I would say the best what you can do is stay quiet, 522 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000 look at the phenomena, warn the others, 523 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,000 but don't run because you know when something appears 524 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 some people react and are very difficult. 525 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 I run and say f***ing nothing. 526 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000 After living what can only be described as a colourful life, 527 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,000 it takes more than a few lights in the sky to scare me. 528 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,000 So as the sun sets, Miguel and I turn our gazes to the heavens and wait. 529 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 So when you're doing a sky watch, 530 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,000 is it important to be quiet and not talk and keep your eyes on the sky? 531 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,000 The idea is more to enjoy the sky watch, to enjoy the nature, 532 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,000 and also if you see a UFO, this is for me a pleasure, 533 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000 it's for me something like a prize, you know? 534 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,000 You see I don't go to nightclubs or disco dancing or the pub anymore, 535 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000 because I'm very sad. 536 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,000 I go out in the middle of my garden at home and look at the stars all night. 537 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Last night I was looking up to see four shooting stars. 538 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Shooting stars? 539 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,000 Yeah, four. 540 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Wow. 541 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000 How long was it? 542 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,000 The star? 543 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,000 You see those seconds? 544 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Seconds. 545 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Four of them. 546 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,000 The people who think that the UFO phenomenon research is something easy, 547 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 they don't know what they are talking about. 548 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,000 It might not be easy, but being up here with Miguel 549 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000 means I've got the best chance of seeing a UFO since I was 15, 550 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000 so I'm going to wait this one out. 551 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,000 I've left the band back in the UK and travelled 7,000 miles to Chile 552 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,000 on a mission to discover the truth behind the country's many UFO sightings. 553 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,000 I've come to the UFO watch spot, go honking my pole, 554 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,000 with expert sky watcher Miguel Jardin, to try my hand at UFO hunting. 555 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,000 But three hours in, and with all still quiet in the skies above, 556 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000 it reminds me what we're studying for. 557 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Some UFO episodes begin with flashing, 558 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000 you follow the flashing and suddenly a stop, 559 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,000 and they may begin to make movements, 560 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,000 and you have only to follow them. 561 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000 And he hasn't spoken a moment too soon? 562 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000 There is one? 563 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Yeah, I saw something. 564 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Oh, there. 565 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Have you seen? 566 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,000 Yeah. 567 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000 You see? No, it's something. 568 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000 It could be also a plane, it could be also a plane. 569 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:33,000 But normally the flags, there's something like 200 kilometres to the north. 570 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Look, there's another satellite there, in the top, 571 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,000 coming from left to right. 572 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000 But it's soon obvious that whatever the light was, 573 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000 unfortunately it's not what we're really looking for, 574 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,000 and I get the feeling Miguel's even more desperate to see a UFO than I am. 575 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 I mean, I did see something flash before, 576 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,000 but again, I think it was a star in the cloud, I mean, yeah. 577 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,000 And the reason I suppose it was a cloud, too, 578 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,000 there are a lot of mysteries in the sky. 579 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000 It seems to me this place has put Miguel on edge, 580 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,000 and as Candy sends, he opens up about a UFO experience 581 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000 and he's like, 582 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,000 I was a UFO researcher until 2003. 583 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,000 I would say I'm still a UFO researcher, but I promise 584 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:31,000 I'm not making sky-watching signs 2003 after an episode 585 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,000 where we, with the other 12 or 13 person sufferers, 586 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000 are missing time. 587 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 I'm not saying I'm not doing that. 588 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000 I'm not saying I'm not doing that. 589 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000 I'm not saying I'm not doing that. 590 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,000 So for our missing time, 591 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,000 from that time I don't take people to the sky-watching 592 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,000 because I feel responsible of everything that could happen to the people. 593 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000 What impresses me about some of these missing time experiences 594 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000 is that they occur collectively sometimes, 595 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,000 and the onset of the amnesia in two or more witnesses 596 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000 seems to occur at the same time. 597 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Now, if these memory gaps were due to purely internal psychological processes, 598 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000 you wouldn't expect that. 599 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 If you and I took LSD right now, 600 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,000 you wouldn't expect our trips to begin exactly at the right time, 601 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 end at precisely the right time, and have the same content. 602 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,000 But that seems to be the case with some of these missing time experiences, 603 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,000 and that gives me the feeling that we're dealing here with something genuinely anomalous, 604 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000 genuinely paranormal. 605 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000 From missing time, one or two hours of missing time, 606 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,000 I would say, most of us, we cannot remember what happened, 607 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 and that's the problem. 608 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 When you cannot remember what happened, 609 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000 you ask yourself, why? 610 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,000 And you say, what happened there? 611 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000 And these kind of questions remain and remain, 612 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000 and you say, maybe something happened, 613 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000 and you will remember it in the future. 614 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 And some guys remember, or they're not. 615 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,000 And if it was a bad experience, I feel responsible. 616 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,000 So there is a risk you take when you enter into this phenomenal research. 617 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000 But if you're a researcher, you are obligated to look for the truth. 618 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 For me, this is not a joke. 619 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,000 The night sky might not be lit up with alien spacecraft, 620 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,000 but studgazing at the southern skies up here in the Andes feels like a real privilege. 621 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,000 Well, this might be a UFO hotspot, 622 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,000 but I'm bloody freezing. 623 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,000 So I might have to call it a night. 624 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,000 I've just not got the vibe tonight. 625 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000 I was willing to suffer to happen tonight, 626 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000 but it just wasn't to be. 627 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,000 As we jumped back into four before to drive back to civilization, 628 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000 though I feel unlucky not to have seen anything, 629 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,000 this has been a night I will ever forget. 630 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000 I know the sky watching from my garden in Salford 631 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 just won't ever be the same when I eventually get home. 632 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000 It's the start of a new day in Santiago. 633 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 I'm back in the city, but here in Chile, 634 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000 you don't need to be in the middle of the wilderness 635 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,000 to find stories of UFO sightings. 636 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Wherever you are, they're surrounding you. 637 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,000 I'm on my way to investigate one of Chile's more bizarre UFO events, 638 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:03,000 which happened in the skies over the capital itself on January 31, 1932. 639 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000 The case consists of a family that is in their house 640 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000 celebrating the birthday of one of their children. 641 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,000 The family goes out to the streets to play with the children, 642 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,000 and suddenly someone screams that some of the paracaidists are coming. 643 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,000 They say, look, the paracaidists are coming. 644 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000 But they saw that the paracaidists weren't coming. 645 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,000 They thought that the paracaidists were coming 646 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,000 because they were afraid of the UFO. 647 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000 They saw that the paracaidists weren't coming, 648 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000 but that the paracaidists were staying there 649 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000 and moving from one place to another. 650 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,000 On January 31, 1998, people all over Santiago 651 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,000 observed several humanoid figures descending from the sky 652 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 to over above the city, 653 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000 catching on video by various witnesses 654 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000 the case cut the imagination of the country, 655 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000 and to this day it remains unexplained. 656 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Rodrigo funds a leader, director of Chile's leading civilian UFO group, 657 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,000 has agreed to meet me to look through the footage. 658 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:11,000 This is Hira, an appear, the bodies flying over the cubs. 659 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000 For me, it's... 660 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,000 I don't explain it today, this. 661 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,000 But it does look like he's sort of dressed in Star Wars. 662 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Yes. 663 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,000 He? Yes. 664 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000 He really does look like a starship trooper. 665 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000 Yes. 666 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Star Wars in Chile. 667 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Yes. 668 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Yes, similar. 669 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Especially on the last shot, that the guy, when coming down, 670 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000 he's like, he has the stick here. 671 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000 He stood this way with the stick out. 672 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000 The thing over his head and he stood there like that 673 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000 in Star Wars stormtrooper gear. 674 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Yes, similar. 675 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,000 Can you imagine, the study seeing a starship trooper 676 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,000 coming down out of the sky on a Pogo stick. 677 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000 It really does look like Darth Vader's coming out of the sky. 678 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000 That must have been mad. 679 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Mad or not, stuck out here in the Santiago sunshine, 680 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000 I can't see a thing. 681 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,000 So we head to Rodriguez's truck to take a closer look at the footage. 682 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000 It looks like... 683 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,000 It looks like it's somebody coming down out of the sky, you know. 684 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000 And it also looks like on the top where the head is, 685 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000 he's shooting sort of spinning around. 686 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000 Yes. 687 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Like, you know, a little propeller on the top of the head. 688 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000 And then they're falling down. 689 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,000 And then they seem to go back up. 690 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000 The mystery is... 691 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,000 With no parachute on? 692 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000 Not parachute. 693 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Where they come from, what they come out of? 694 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Helicopter, no. 695 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,000 No. 696 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000 No. 697 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000 I've specially looked at this film. 698 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000 I've specially analysed it. 699 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Ah. 700 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,000 And what do they say? 701 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,000 First, it's not a military exercise. 702 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,000 No. 703 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,000 It's authentic, it's original. 704 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000 The Schiele and the official research don't explain it today. 705 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000 It's an open case. 706 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,000 I have not got a clue what it is. 707 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000 Can we see that again? 708 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000 OK. 709 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 One of the reasons this case is unusual 710 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,000 is the sheer number of witnesses and their accounts are intriguing. 711 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Some motorists report it seems some of the figures vanishing into the clouds, 712 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,000 whilst those on the ground described others disappearing down into the city, 713 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000 never to be seen again. 714 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Oh, very mysterious. 715 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000 Of course, this is the light of the day, 716 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000 near the sunset, 717 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 reports of meteorology have been requested, 718 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000 and it was confirmed that the wind in that area and that height 719 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 was going in another direction, 720 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,000 not the direction in which the objects were flying. 721 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,000 How many people in Chile believe this is extraterrestrial? 722 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000 70%. 723 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000 70%? 724 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,000 Yes. 725 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Wow. 726 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000 It is a UFO, it's unidentified. 727 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000 Unidentified, yes. 728 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000 It's flying, object, moving object. 729 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,000 Yes. 730 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 A UMO. 731 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,000 And has this type of thing been seen before in other places? 732 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,000 Yes, on the mountain range, perhaps, 733 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,000 very interesting UFO case similar to this case. 734 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,000 The other cases in Chile are just the tip of this very weird iceberg. 735 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000 This is a truly global phenomena. 736 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,000 The internet buzzes with reports of strange humanoid figures descending from the sky, 737 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000 and in the last 10 years alone, 738 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,000 sightings have been made in Mexico, India and the USA, 739 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,000 to enable a few. 740 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Some reports are more credible than others, 741 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,000 but the Santiago case is right at the top of the peculiar pile. 742 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Well, it's definitely not nonsense. 743 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000 I mean, I don't know. 744 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000 I mean, do we do... 745 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000 Is it some sort of experimental parachute? 746 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,000 In Paris, you want some experimental landing to Earth, 747 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,000 here that we've never seen? 748 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000 I don't know. 749 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,000 It looks like a team of some sort coming down. 750 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,000 This is one of the strangest, mysterious things that I've ever seen. 751 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000 It really is. 752 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Yes. 753 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,000 Any interested? 754 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,000 Very interested. 755 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,000 The final conclusion we reached in El Sefa, 756 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,000 the truth is that we couldn't reach a final conclusion, actually. 757 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000 It was a bit out of the question, 758 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,000 because there's no clear explanation for what we saw. 759 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,000 There's no way... 760 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000 It's not about terrestrial objects. 761 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,000 It was a distraction from everything that wasn't there. 762 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,000 In the end, there's nothing terrestrial that can explain it. 763 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000 For no one. 764 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000 They weren't known flying objects, 765 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,000 they were UFOs, unidentified flying objects. 766 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000 The analyst at Sefa 767 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,000 might not be able to tell us what these figures are, 768 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000 but I know exactly what they look like to me. 769 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000 It looks like a Star Wars trooper 770 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,000 who stood on a pole-goal stick under a woman's airdryer 771 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000 coming down from the sky. 772 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000 It does. It looks like a stash. 773 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000 Of all the things I've seen so far in Chile, 774 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000 this final case is perhaps the most baffling, 775 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000 but maybe some of these questions 776 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,000 just don't have a conventional explanation. 777 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000 Although my motive for this journey 778 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000 was to see cancers to my own UFO story, 779 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,000 what I've discovered is that here on the other side of the planet, 780 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000 through our shared experiences, 781 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,000 I have a real connection with this place and its people. 782 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,000 It's comforting to learn that I'm not alone, 783 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000 and that Chile was the perfect place to come on my search.